The
events leading to his emergence as the Speaker of the Lagos State House of
Assembly are not things that Rt. (Hon.) Mudashiru Obasa would forget in a
hurry.
According
to him, he was insulted, abused and violated along with his family members
through bad press during the period.
All
these are now history as Hon. Obasa from Agege Constituency 1 is now the
substantive Speaker of the foremost Assembly.
The
interview session with the brand new Speaker was as revealing as they come and
the man of the moment evinced poise and fulfillment throughout the session.
On
the inauguration day, you called on those who contested against you that they
should reconcile with you. We will like to know how far this has gone and what
you are doing to bring the aggrieved lawmakers, who are your co-travelers,
together
We are all
co-travelers, 40 of us, from now till 2019 and Insha Allah, we shall get there
successfully. I don’t think there is anyone that is aggrieved amongst my
colleagues in the House. Truly, some of us aspired to become the Speaker, about
four or five of us, but we have settled that immediately, we have all moved
back to our normal lives. We have been relating as colleagues. Let me say that
there was no division amongst us; it was just a process. We have chosen
consensus as a means of selecting the Speaker in this parliament since 2003, in
1999, when there was an election to choose the Speaker of the House, there was
sharp division in the House because some people did not support the then
speaker then, Hon. Olorunimbe Mamora. In 2003, when Rt. (Hon.) Jokotola Pelumi
came, we chose him by consensus, when he was impeached, Hon. Babajide
Omoworare, Hon. Oyewo and Rt. (Hon.) Adeyemi Ikuforiji showed interest and
through consensus, we agreed on Ikuforiji. In 2007, the same thing happened and
in 2011, the same thing was repeated. I emerged in the same manner and process
and I don’t think any of my colleagues is aggrieved. We have attended so many
programmes immediately after the Speaker issue and I was with some of them at
the programmes.
How
would you describe your emergence as the Speaker, before the election, many
people thought the former deputy speaker of the House, Hon. Kolawole Taiwo
would be the Speaker, but now you are here?
Naturally, as you
rightly observed, we were all looking forward to having Hon. Kolawole Taiwo as
the Speaker of the Assembly because I personally believe that we must respect
ranking and those that have the cognate experience should be given a chance to
operate. Parliament is not like other places, where you appoint people based on
certificate. It is an institution that believes in ranking. For me, I would
have supported Hon. Kolawole Taiwo, but unfortunately he couldn’t make it and
people were looking at who would become the Speaker. My own candidature was
initiated by some of my constituents and some of my colleagues. You will
realize that during that time, a lot of our people were going to the press to
seek support for the post. But, personally I didn’t do that because I believe
that it is not public opinion that would choose the speaker for us and with due
respect, I believe that it was not journalists that would choose the speaker
for us. I believed that the party leaders and my colleagues in the House would
decide the new speaker. We are all qualified for the position, I am not the
only one that is qualified, but we had to leave the decision for our colleagues
and the party leaders. I cannot say this is the reason behind it, but I can say
it was done through consensus.
What
new ideas would you come up with to move the House forward and what are the
lapses of the past administration that you would want to correct?
I have not seen
any shortcoming of the 7th Assembly because I was also part of them. I believe
that you cannot do it all or do it alone. As I said, we have a tradition in the
parliament, so it is difficult to blame anybody except some things that are not
adequate that you can make up. We will continue to follow our tradition; we
will improve what we met on ground like we have talked about timing that our
sittings should start by 10 a.m except if there is reason to adjust the time.
We will reach out to our constituents, when we talk about our constituents, we
think of the downtrodden, this time around, we want to reach out to everybody,
we want to show them what we are doing and educate them on our activities. Even
those who are educated have no knowledge of what the parliament does. So, we
want to engage them, talk to them and make them know that this is a parliament
that attends to the need of Lagosians, we have a lot to do and we hope we would
be able to achieve them.
People
believe that Hon. Obasa is not friendly with the press, as the Speaker, how do
you want to erase that idea?
I am not going to
try to erase any idea, it is your own perception, I have my own perception. You
cannot conclude that I am not your friend, when you are not close to me. It is
only when you are close to me that you can judge me. I believe that we are
friends; we have been working together in the same institution for so many
years. You have not requested that you want to talk to me and I refuse. If you
had invited me and I say no, you can say this person is not friendly, he
doesn’t like our faces. Until you do that, it would be wrong to say that I am
not friendly with the press except if I am not forthcoming. You should have
challenged me.
You
highlighted some agenda during the inauguration of the 8th Assembly; I just
want to find out what would be your focus and areas of priority as the Speaker.
Also, people would want to judge you based on the standard set by the former
Speaker. What are you doing to make sure that you have priority and beat the
record of the past Speaker of the House?
It is all about
the House, it is not an individual thing, and no man can take the glory.
Whatever we might have achieved, we should agree that it was because there were
agreements amongst all the members. If some members say ‘yes’ and others say
‘no,’ it would not be possible. Whatever we have achieved together, whatever
glory we have today was because we worked hand in hand, we worked as members of
the House. Comparing me with the last Speaker might be wrong, he served for 10
years, so talking about what somebody did for 10 years and what somebody that
is just coming in is doing might be wrong, you would see that there is no basis
for comparison. Secondly, if you look at the situation with which we ended the
last Assembly, the Speaker was interested in the governorship race, so there
would be a lot of class that he had to introduce and that is not happening now.
Also, if I am going to say I want to become the Governor, may be I would
naturalise to become a native of Lagos. So, these are the things you look at
when comparing the former Speaker and the present Speaker. We believe that we
will not disappoint anybody as long as we have the co-operation of the members,
staffers and the press. Also, we would
like to engage the citizens through town hall meetings; may be quarterly, we
will continue with trainings and involvement of the management of the Assembly.
They are my proposals that are yet to be adopted by the Assembly; it is not
just my own decision.
How
do you feel about some issues that came up during the speakership race,
especially those relating to your state of origin?
I wasn’t
disturbed, only few people would claim to be natives of Lagos more than me. I
was born here, I grew up here and I went to school here. I am sure if I get to
Ogun State now hardly would they be able to recognize me and if I want to
contest there, I am sure they might not allow me until I beg them and tell them
about my family house. I was not disturbed about it, we laughed over it, when I
saw the newspaper that reported the issue during our induction programme at the
Golden Tulip Hotel in Festac Town, Lagos. That was even the least of the attack
I received, I was seriously abused, I was violated including my family members.
I have heard that politics is dirty and murky, but it was at that point that I
realized this. I thank Almighty Allah that it is not taking anything away from
us.
One
of the allegations against you was that you didn’t attend law school after your
law degree programme in LASU, how true is this?
You would not
expect me to say otherwise, I would naturally tell you I went to Law School.
The only way you can verify my claim is for you to carry out an independent
investigation. It is just a terrible thing, I was in the United States of
America and I received a phone call from the Law School that a petition was
written against me that I should not be allowed to graduate from the school due
to certain reasons. I told them I was not in town that I would see them, when I
come back. I went there, when I came back and they showed me the petition,
where they alleged that I was a thug, that I had been exploiting people and that
I received bribe from local governments, and did this and that. I went there
with all the necessary documents, but the petitioners did not show up. They
said why should I go to the university, when I am supposed to be here
representing my people. But, I feel that what is the problem, if you have a
representative of the people, and in the process he thinks there is a need to
improve in quality and education, would that not tell on the people you are
representing? A lot of us past and current members improved ourselves, while
here, so what is the problem. What is so special about Obasa, I was not
disturbed because it was due to the fact that I showed interest in the position
of the Speaker of the House. It is in the imagination of the people.
The
seat you are occupying is very hot, what are your survival strategies and are
you saying that you have shock absorber for the seat?
There is no spring
on my leg, so there is not shock absorber. The only person I have is Almighty
Allah because whatever you have or you don’t have is through Him. So, as long
as you believe that you are doing the right thing, you don’t need to bother
yourself. I don’t need to fear that if they remove me, what would I do, I don’t
need to bother myself about that.
You
said that your constituents played a part on your becoming the Speaker of the
House, I would like to know the role they played in this because I could
remember, when we called you about some posters in Agege on your speakership
ambition last year, you said you didn’t know about it. How would you relate
then and now?
I said then that I
didn’t know anything about it that the Speaker would not be chosen on the
streets or in Agege, but that it was all about the leaders of the party and the
members, but that it was not out of radar. Truly, I didn’t start it, somebody
called my attention to the posters and I told those, who were pasting them to
stop. That was even the preliminary, but when Hon. Kolawole Taiwo did not
return, people were saying that who would become the Speaker, may be by the
virtue of my years in the Assembly, my name was mentioned. We are three in that
category; Hon. Sikiru Oshinowo, Hon. Adefunmilayo Tejuosho and me. Oshinowo
being the father of all is not interested in the position, so when people
mentioned my name, would I say no. When people went to the press, they
mentioned my name regularly.
The
House of Assembly makes laws and the people embrace them, but the problem has
been implementation. An example is the anti-smoking law that is yet to be
enforced, what is your take on this?
For the fact that you have some laws does not mean they would be effective now, some laws have futuristic status. We have passed them but it would take time before they could work. We say no smoking in public places, where we copied it from, when they say don’t smoke here, they would provide an alternative. The laws are necessary, which is why we have passed them, when the time comes, we don’t have to rush to pass them again. They are in place, so it is just to ensure that we get to them gradually, if you look at the Cremation Law, it is the same thing. The major challenge of our people is to embrace change.
I feel the House has not really done well in two areas; one is the Impact Assessment of the laws you make on the people, secondly many people are not aware of these laws, what are you going to do on these?
We have a plan, and very soon, you would be seeing billboards all around Lagos, you know I said, we need to engage the people, not just the downtrodden, but that we should include the elites and the educated ones. We would start telling them what we have done through the billboards about our laws and the purpose. Communication seems to be the problem and we need to reach out to the people. We discussed impact assessment in the last assembly, which is why we want to organize town hall meetings and through that we will get the assessment of the laws.
For the fact that you have some laws does not mean they would be effective now, some laws have futuristic status. We have passed them but it would take time before they could work. We say no smoking in public places, where we copied it from, when they say don’t smoke here, they would provide an alternative. The laws are necessary, which is why we have passed them, when the time comes, we don’t have to rush to pass them again. They are in place, so it is just to ensure that we get to them gradually, if you look at the Cremation Law, it is the same thing. The major challenge of our people is to embrace change.
I feel the House has not really done well in two areas; one is the Impact Assessment of the laws you make on the people, secondly many people are not aware of these laws, what are you going to do on these?
We have a plan, and very soon, you would be seeing billboards all around Lagos, you know I said, we need to engage the people, not just the downtrodden, but that we should include the elites and the educated ones. We would start telling them what we have done through the billboards about our laws and the purpose. Communication seems to be the problem and we need to reach out to the people. We discussed impact assessment in the last assembly, which is why we want to organize town hall meetings and through that we will get the assessment of the laws.
We
heard that you have not moved to your official quarters as the Speaker, does it
mean that you hate the building?
Why would you hate
a beautiful thing, I am not in a hurry to move there, I can move in anytime and
you have to give the person there time to move out. We will do that at the
appropriate time.
The
state Governor pleaded with the House for its support during the inauguration
of the 8th Assembly, how do you hope to do this despite the independence of the
House?
We are talking
about mutual respect and inter-dependence, we will work hand in hand despite
the principle of separation of power. You must realize that we belong to the
same party, we will execute the manifestoes of the party but despite that we
must ensure that the interests of our people are well protected.
Many
people see you as a socialite, now you are the Speaker of the House, how would
you marry the two?
Who is in a public
office that is not a socialite, is former governor Babatunde Raji Fashola not
social, did that disturb his performance. Is Rt. (Hon.) Adeyemi Ikuforiji not
social, people have said a lot, I have heard a lot about that, but that would
not change me. It is a habit I cultivated long time ago. If you are getting
married tomorrow, and you invite me, I would be there. After the swearing-in
ceremony, a couple of friends orgainsed a dinner for me and I was there, I
would not lose my friends all because I am now the Speaker of the House.