Fifteen
years after the death of Archbishop Benson Idahosa, Margaret Benson-Idahosa,
the Archbishop of the Church of God International, who turned 70 on July 29, has
remained a symbol of grace and her strides have remained a proof of the power
of faith.
In
this interview, Archbishop Margaret Idahosa shares memories of her husband and
childhood amongst sundry issues.
I feel the same on
the inside of me. Although I cannot jump, dance and move like I used to, I know
all of that come with age. One thing I know has been the secret of my peace is
the fact that I do not hold grudges against anyone. When you offend me, I open
up to you and forgive you. You see, forgiveness is not loss of memory but
memory without want of vengeance, and that’s what I have on the inside of me
because I’m preparing myself for heaven. I’ve been through a lot in this life
and cannot afford to miss heaven.
Fifteen years ago, your being handed the mantle of leadership of your husband’s church attracted a lot of criticisms from all sides; how have you managed since then?
Fifteen years ago, your being handed the mantle of leadership of your husband’s church attracted a lot of criticisms from all sides; how have you managed since then?
One thing my
husband taught me to understand is that people will always talk about anybody
as long that person has the breath of God in his or her nostrils. But he always
told me: “If you talk back to them, it means you’re on the same level.” So,
whatever anyone says, I commit to God because He put me in this position. When
my husband died, I had my own agenda. I have four biological children and three
others whom I adopted. I understood I was living in a man’s world, so, I began
planning how I would manage my life after my husband’s funeral.
My first plan was
to go spend three months with my son in the UK, spend three months with my
first daughter and then with my third child before returning to Nigeria
because my fourth child was still schooling at home. My plan was to travel
round to my children’s places and maybe come to Nigeria once a year to see my
mother and others. The ministry was not in my agenda. So, when I was put in
this position, I cried to God about how timid I was and how male dominated the
world was, but God did not answer until I had made up my mind. He said to me:
“Margaret, I’m not moved by tears or your needs, but by faith. If your faith says
yes, I God will not say no”.
I therefore began
building my faith by reading books, praying, acting and all. One day, He spoke
to me again, saying, “If I made the appointment, I will release in you the
ability to perform and excel”. That he has actually done all this while. If you
look at the Church of God Mission, you’ll find that I’m not the best preacher.
There are some that are fire-brands and whose sermons could make the heaven
kiss the earth. But God has been gracious to me.
At
this point, do you feel fulfilled?
I feel fulfilled
in the sense that I’m doing what God asked me to do. I feel fulfilled because
I’m not copying anybody. I feel fulfilled because my children are all in the
ministry. I have seen some pastors praying for their child to come to God, but
I look at my children and glorify God because they discovered God on their own;
not because of whom their father was or what I have done. They discovered God
by themselves, and that’s the most precious thing God can do for a preacher;
for the children to discover the God of their fathers and stand firmly to
defend that God. I’m confident that even when I’m no longer here, they can
stand until Jesus comes.
What
went through your mind when your husband passed-on; didn’t you feel like
suspecting anyone because of the suddenness?
We both went to
the United States but on our way back, he told me to go visit the children in
the UK and take care of their fees. Two days after, I was told he passed-on! It
was a big shock! Early in that year however, sometimes in January, he told me:
“Margaret, I now live for posterity, not prosperity, because I have all I need.
Now, I live for people and what I can be remembered for.” I was dazed and
advised him to go on vacation for a rest.
In February which
was his 40th year into the ministry, he called me and said: “Margaret, I think
I have finished everything God asked me to do”. I argued with him that one does
not finish the work of God, but later in February, he repeated it again, and I
became more worried because I believed God promised old age. He was supposed to
be 60 in September that year and I didn’t want to agree that he was going to
leave at that age. He passed on March 12. It was when I came to terms with the
news of his death that I remembered he had said it earlier.
What
do you miss about him?
Everything; his
care, concern, love, messages, standing for people and the nation. I miss
everything about him.
What
attracted you to him?
I’m an only child
and I was always fighting in the streets and at school. My mother made new
uniforms for me almost every month because my uniforms always got torn after
every fight. I actually stuttered and because I could not express myself, I got
used to using my hands(fighting). My husband was living in the neighbourhood
and would always come to settle my fights and counsel me against fighting. But
as time went on, I took him as a brother because I had none. I even went as far
as trying to choose a wife for him amongst my friends; but he told me he didn’t
want a wife. I actually didn’t see anything in him; he had only a bicycle and
was living in a rented room and parlour apartment. But I just liked him because
he stood by me as a brother(I actually referred to him as bro), especially
whenever I entered into trouble on the streets. He came eight years after to
say he wanted to marry me, and when I finally accepted, we settled down. At
that time he was a deacon.
You
were relatively young when he passed on .What effect did it have on you?
My husband
departed this world when I was 55 years old. Today I am 70 years. God has
helped me since my husband passed on; I have never lust after any man. I had
my husband and enjoyed him. It is now time to focus on God’s
assignment than re-marrying. There have been men who wanted my hand
in marriage, but I declined. Some would say, ‘Mama, you are looking
good’. I always tell them, ‘thank you’, and that the way they see me
has been through the backing of the Holy Spirit. It is the Holy Spirit
that rejuvenates me. If you believe in the Holy Spirit, He will rejuvenate
you.
You are the
Chancellor of Benson Idahosa University. How have you been able to
successfully run the university and manage church affairs
Running a
university is not an easy task. When my husband died, the university was not
fully accredited then. We had to work on our programme. We were able to comply
with rules, regulations and policy of the National University Commission.
The university was
approved by the Federal Government in 2002. For a state to even run a
university, it is not an easy task, not to talk of an individual. We thank God
that the foundation of our university is based on God .When God gives a vision;
he will also make the provision. We want to thank God that the foundation of
our university is based on God.
Is
it Biblical for women to lead a church the same way men do?
God is not mad at
men and women according to Gen.1:28-29,men and women were created by God
,God gave both of them authority; not the man alone, to go and dominate and
multiply. You can multiply by the Word of God or biologically. It is religion
and tradition that relegated the woman. The mind of God is that men and
women work together amicably.
Before God ,there
is no difference but, traditionally, we have difference. If a man
can fulfill the gift in him from the foundation, why can’t a
woman as well? God has called the man and the woman. So, God is not mad
at the man preaching and the woman also preaching.
The Restoration
Center, which is the Christian Women Fellowship International, was ordained by
God. If God gives you a vision, He will bring people around to provide for
the vision. God has been very faithful. When He gave us the name, He did
not tell us the ups and downs on the way. Everyday when we
come together as a body to worship, God opens a little more about the vision.
We have trained many women and empowered them.
What
informed the establishment of Word of Faith Group of Schools? How do you
react to the opinion on the establishment of schools by churches as an
avenue to make money?
It is true that
Word of Faith Group of Schools is owned by us and it is a fact that money
is coming in from it now. But don’t forget that before we established it, funds
were injected into it. We spent money to build the school, paid teachers
and provided incentives to the management in one way or the other. We laboured
to put the school in shape. It is just now that money is coming. But the
purpose of establishing the school is not to make money but to train children
from the cradle. Benin was not what it is today. At that time, it was called
the City of Laws. If a native doctor told you to fulfill an
appointment by 2pm, you had to be there. When the real gospel came, we
let men and women know that God is not a killer.
God wants you to give your heart to Him and He will protect you and your children. We have seen a lot of changes. Then, I looked at our children and told myself that, in 20 years time, our children should be able to contribute their quota to the development of the nation. This informed my vision to establish Word of Faith Group of Schools. I think it is better that we have the spread of schools than spreading the gospels of Sango, Ogun, Orunmila. When a child is developed mentally, he or she can become anything in life. So, our school is Christian-based. Whatever comes from the school is invested in the ministry.
God wants you to give your heart to Him and He will protect you and your children. We have seen a lot of changes. Then, I looked at our children and told myself that, in 20 years time, our children should be able to contribute their quota to the development of the nation. This informed my vision to establish Word of Faith Group of Schools. I think it is better that we have the spread of schools than spreading the gospels of Sango, Ogun, Orunmila. When a child is developed mentally, he or she can become anything in life. So, our school is Christian-based. Whatever comes from the school is invested in the ministry.